By Doug Grow
©2004 Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune
November 24, 2004
I am as guilty as any other stereotyper, for the first thing I did when
arriving at work Monday was start calling Hmong leaders regarding the awful
shootings in the Wisconsin woods over the weekend.
Had the name of the alleged shooter been Johnson or O'Reilly, I would not
have been calling Scandinavian leaders or Irish leaders to ask about one man's
actions.
But the man suspected of killing five people is Chai Soua Vang. And I was
calling Hmong leaders to talk about the group effect of one man's horrible acts.
All the people I spoke with were pained, yet gracious.
In all cases, their pain was on two levels.
First, they all expressed pain for the families suddenly trying to cope with
an act that defies understanding.
"We feel so sorry for these grieving families," said Kou Xiong, who
works for the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources as a liaison to Hmong
hunters and anglers.
The second level of their pain is how, whether rational or not, the action of
one man affects thousands of people.
Xiong spoke of how he was receiving phone calls Monday morning from Hmong
hunters throughout Minnesota and Wisconsin.
"They were asking me if they should go ahead with their plans to
hunt," Xiong said. "I told them, 'Yes, go ahead. This is not your
problem. Do not take the blame. The person who has done something wrong is the
one who is accountable. Not you.' "
It sounds so simple and so right. Individuals are accountable for their
actions.
But it doesn't always work that way. And no people understand that better
than the Hmong. When one person acts badly, the others in the group must be
ready to react and, in a case so filled with sadness and anger, they must react
with great caution.
On Monday, for example, a spokesman for an organization known as the Hmong 18
Council said leaders would have no comment, other than to offer sympathy to the
families, until the group's elders had a chance to meet. The elders of the
organization, which represents conservative values of the Hmong, are expected to
issue a statement and more condolences at a meeting this morning.
"We are concerned [about impact on all Hmong]," spokesman Vue Chu
said. "But please understand, we need to gather and talk about this. Right
now, all we can say is that our hearts go out to those who lost their loved
ones."
Again, consider how differently different groups are treated.
There are four Johnsons in the Minnesota Legislature. Yet, if the name of the
suspect in this nightmare had been Johnson, none of them would have been
receiving calls from the media.
But moments after reporters learned that the suspect in Sunday's shooting was
a St. Paul man named Vang, the phone in state Sen. Mee Moua's St. Paul home
started ringing.
The first thing Moua said to those who called is that she's terribly sad for
the grieving families.
The second thing she said to reporters is "why are you calling me?"
She asked the question in a friendly way. But she also believes that the
calls she received Sunday evening and Monday morning represent a stereotyping
that seems to be far from fading.
It's somehow safe to lump all Hmong together.
She pointed out how one local radio personality routinely makes jokes about
the Hmong disregarding hunting and fishing regulations.
"I hear how he calls himself 'the common sense' person," she said.
"It should be offensive to most Minnesotans that he's defining common
sense."
No group carries so many ugly labels as the Hmong, she said.
"We're men who beat up their wives, parents who kill their children,
people who just collect welfare, people who don't know to follow hunting and
fishing regulations," she said. "We make easy targets, partially
because people know they can get away with it. We don't march or demonstrate,
and we don't call radio stations."
We don't know what set off the bloodbath in the Wisconsin woods Sunday. We
may never know.
But Moua said she believes that most people with good hearts and common sense
will accept the fact that this was one man, not thousands of Hmong people.
"We're truly American," she said.
There are Minnesota Hmong who set aside Sundays for Vikings games. Wisconsin
Hmong who set aside Sundays for Packers games. Hmong who love the ritual of the
deer camp, just as other Minnesotans and Wisconsinites have for generations.
Moua's preference, by the way, is fishing with her husband and father.
Sitting on the shores of lakes, she's been called "a chink" and
"a gook."
But she doesn't believe that sort of name-calling ugliness represents the
beliefs of all whites anymore than the actions of one man represents all Hmong.
Hmong Leaders Say Suspect Doesn't Represent Community
By Curt Brown
©2004 Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune
November 24, 2004
Two dozen Hmong leaders asked the broader community Tuesday not to let the
alleged violent outburst of one Hmong man tarnish 30 years of good will.
"We ask you not to allow the despicable act of one person to stain the
reputation of an entire community of good, hard-working people," Cha Vang,
the son of Gen. Vang Pao, said at an unprecedented news conference at the Lao
Family Community center in St. Paul.
Hmong leaders, including Vang Pao, gathered to beg for calm and put distance
between their community and Chai Soua Vang, the man suspected of fatally
wounding six deer hunters in northwestern Wisconsin on Sunday.
"The Hmong are just as confused, shocked and bewildered as anyone by
this incident," said Cha Vang, who is not related to the alleged gunman and
was chosen to speak for his father and other elders. "Our community is not
unlike any other. You have your good people and you also have your bad
apples."
Gen. Vang Pao, who led Hmong troops alongside U.S. forces during the Vietnam
War, had just arrived in the Twin Cities on Sunday when news reports of the
shootings began to flow.
"He became very angry," his son said later in an interview.
"For 30 years, the Hmong have settled here and made good relations with the
broader community until something like this, which could damage the reputation
of the whole Hmong community."
State Rep. Cy Thao, DFL-St. Paul, said Chai Vang's ethnic background
shouldn't be a factor because disputes over deer stands are not "unique to
one group of people."
Cha Vang agreed, saying he has American friends who have shared stories about
competition for the best hunting spots.
"Even among Americans, you see a lot of that competitive nature as
everybody tries to bag the bigger buck," Cha Vang said.
In court documents released later in the day Tuesday, Chai Soua Vang said the
shooting victims used derogatory terms for Asians when they told him to get off
the property.
Such talk of racial tension between white and Hmong hunters didn't surprise
Ilean Her, the state director of the Council on Asian-Pacific Minnesotans. She
said her office has received complaints in recent days from Hmong hunters who
have had unpleasant exchanges with white hunters in the woods.
"They have called up and said, yes, there are situations in which white
hunters think this is their country; Asian hunters, this is not their
country," Her said.
St. Paul Police Chief John Harrington joined Gen. Vang Pao and other Hmong
leaders to echo their sentiments.
"For 30 years, we have known the Hmong community as a peace-loving,
great community, and we really do feel this is an isolated incident,"
Harrington said.
Harrington, Her, Cha Vang and others all said they are praying for the
victims' families and the two survivors' recoveries.
"The circumstances that bring us together are tragic beyond words,"
Cha Vang said. "But it is only with words, as inadequate as they are, that
our grief and sympathy can be expressed."
The Hmong leaders say they will stand behind the U.S. courts as Chai Vang's
case progresses.
"Like you, we are unable to explain what happened, and there can be no
explanation for such an abhorrent incident," Cha Vang said. "If indeed
this individual is found by the courts to be responsible for these crimes, we
stand before you as members of the greater, law-abiding Hmong community to
unconditionally condemn these atrocities."