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The Truth About Gay Asian Men
Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, October 09 @ 22:46:16 EDT
Dating and Sexuality

By Jason Chang
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February/March 2001

"Are you sticky?"

It was a hot summer evening in Boston almost a decade ago, and I was one of only two Asian men in a crowded, predominantly white gay club.  The other guy in the room had been smiling at me all evening and finally came up to make small talk.  I was trying to politely convey my lack of interest in him when he asked that strange question.

"Well, yeah," I replied.  "It's very hot in here."  He laughed and said he wasn't asking about my skin but whether I was attracted to other Asian men -- "Sticky, like sticky rice" he clarified, "rice that clings together."  There's "sticky rice," he said, and there are "potato queens" -- Asians who only date white men.

Throughout the age of mass media, mainstream American culture has consistently stereotyped straight Asian American men as asexual and subordinate, thereby denying them their full measure of humanity and masculinity.

What's worse, this stereotyping has not been the product not of a media conspiracy but of the free market in action.  Movie studios and TV networks are simply maximizing their profits in response to the overwhelming demand from mass audiences, predominantly white Americans, for content that affirms the sense of entitlement and centrality of white male protagonists at the expense of all others.  The racist perception that Asian men are less than "real men" pervades mainstream American culture, and profoundly impacts the life chances and self-image of all Asian American men.

For Asian American activists who join with most progressives in viewing white gay rights advocates as comrades in arms, the accompanying article may come as disappointing news.  As Jason Chang has found, the racist subordination of Asian American men -- often internalized as self-hatred -- is endemic not only in mainstream America, but in the counterculture of gay America.  Chang has identified an injustice that straight and gay Asian American brothers should challenge together.

-- Andrew Chin

"Oh, I am definitely a potato queen," I replied hastily to dispel any hopes he might have.  While keenly aware that he was strikingly good-looking, there was no way I would be interested in him; back then, I wanted a Caucasian boyfriend, preferably one who looked like the male models in GQ.  He sighed, "I'm not surprised.  So many Asians only want a white boyfriend.  I don't know why."  He gave me a wan smile and took his leave.

It's been eight years since, but I've never forgotten that conversation because it started me on the road to questioning my racial preferences.  They had always been a reflex, not anything I had really thought about until that evening.  Why was I attracted only to white men, I asked myself.  Why wouldn't I even consider another Asian guy as a potential partner?  I'd been attracted to white men since my earliest memory.  From my preadolescent crushes to my teen idols, my white knight had always been, well, white.  The only Asians I saw on TV or in the movies were houseboys or nerds, and there were certainly no Asian male models in the pages of the fashion magazines my friends and I so fervently perused.

I realized I was not alone in this.  Most of the gay Asians I knew would only date white guys, and most of us just accepted this as the norm.  But as I looked more deeply into the phenomenon, I was astonished by how widespread it was, at just how huge a percentage of gay Asian men were attracted only to white men.

I thought of how my gay Asian friends and I accepted dates from Caucasian men we weren't even attracted to, just so we could have a white partner.  And most of the gay white men we met were not interested in dating Asians.  As in heterosexual society, Asian men were considered to be at the absolute bottom in the hierarchy of desirability.  It seemed that the only white men who were interested in dating Asians were "rice queens" -- a non-Asian man, usually much older, who dates Asian men exclusively, with a single-minded passion bordering on fetishism and with attendant expectations of how Asians should behave.  The white men who could see us as individuals and not stereotypes were few and far between, so we potato queens just took whichever potatoes came our way.

After that night in Boston, though, I became determined to examine my own prejudices against dating Asian men and to fight the lifelong conditioning that had taught me to think of myself and other Asian men as inferior to white men.  As my own ethnic self-esteem grew, I found myself becoming more and more attracted to other Asian men.  I began looking to meet and chat with other "sticky" Asian men.  But they weren't easy to find.

I started noticing that in gay magazines and newsweeklies, almost every personals ad placed by a "GAM" (gay Asian male) was for a "GWM" (gay white male).  I observed that while America Online would always have three or more member-created "GAM4GWM" (gay Asian men for gay white men) chat rooms at any time of the day or night, all filled to capacity, there would only be one "GAM4GAM" room that usually only had a handful of participants.  It wasn't just that gay Asian men were mainly looking for Caucasian partners, it was also that many were strongly, viscerally opposed to ever dating another Asian.

On AOL, I sent instant messages to literally hundreds of other gay Asians, searched member profiles through the member directory and perused hundreds of personals ads.  Most of my IMs to other Asians on AOL were met with stony cybersilence or a one-line "Sorry, not into other Asians" reply.  The sad thing was that I wasn't even looking for those who only dated other Asians, just those who would even consider an Asian for a partner.  Of 110 personals ads placed by gay Asian men in AOL's Photo Personals section, for example, I counted 54 that had marked "white" or "Latino" in the racial preferences boxes, but excluded "Asian."

In the afterword of the book version of his Tony Award-winning play, M. Butterfly, playwright David Henry Hwang wrote, "In these relationships, the Asian virtually always plays the role of the 'woman'; the Rice Queen, culturally and sexually, is the 'man.'  This pattern of relationships has become so codified that, until recently, it was considered unnatural for gay Asians to date one another.  Such men would be taunted with a phrase which implied they were lesbians."

The use of the term "lesbian" to identify gay Asian men who are attracted to each other is a stunning indication of how many gay Asian men perceive that only white men are "real" men and that Asian men who date each other are therefore "lesbians" -- two "women" together.  Mainstream society's stereotyping of Asian men as feminine is raised to a grotesque level in the gay community.

The pursuit of a white boyfriend is so intense that many gay Asian men would sooner date a much older white male partner than another Asian.  Asian and Friends and the Long Yang Club are both social organizations with numerous chapters around the world that are designed for Asian men to meet Caucasian partners.  I had attended some of their events in cities from Sydney to New York, and all I saw were 50-something white guys with their 20-something Asian boyfriends.

"I used to wonder what the deal was with these young Asian guy/older white guy couples that I saw all the time," says Patrick, a Caucasian gay male in his 30s who lives in New York and has dated Asians.  "When I started getting to know some of them, I found that often the Asian guys were just settling for whatever white guy would have them, and there was usually this economic inequality.  Even if the Asian guy was making decent money, there was this inequality in power and status."

This inequality in status between Asians and Caucasians can be seen even in places that cater to gay Asians:  The Web, an Asian-owned nightclub in Manhattan, used to allow Caucasian patrons in for free while charging Asians -- the idea being that Caucasian men were more important and desirable, since Asians were going to the club to meet Caucasian partners.  The concept is similar to "ladies night" at heterosexual nightspots; women are at a premium, so they get in for free.

At Long Yang Club and Asians and Friends meetings, I chatted with other Asian men and asked them how they think they came to prefer white partners so exclusively.  Bert, a 34-year-old Filipino from Boston said, "I just never thought Asian men were beautiful.  My God, I certainly never thought of myself as beautiful.  I want an all-American boyfriend."

"To be honest, I see other Asian guys as competition," said Paul, a 28-year-old Filipino American.  "I can be friends with other Asian guys, but I'll never date them."  Chris, a 26-year-old Chinese American living in Philadelphia has also experienced the cold shoulder from other gay Asians.  "Many of the Asian guys here don't acknowledge my existence in the bars; they see me as competition for the few white men that are attracted to Asians."

Some potato-only Asians became highly defensive when asked about their exclusive preference for white men.  Most said they saw nothing wrong with being attracted only to white men, that it had nothing to do with self-hatred or media conditioning.  "And even if I've been conditioned by the media, so what?" asked Matt, a 24-year-old Chinese American New Yorker whose last partner was a 46-year-old Caucasian.  "We're all conditioned by the media.  I like white men, period."

Interestingly, my chats with Asians around the country and online showed a fairly clear geographic division:  gay Asian men in California were significantly more open to dating Asians than gay Asians on the East Coast.  Perhaps California's longer history and larger Asian American population have simply provided gay Asians with more Asian men to serve as positive role models and teenage crushes.

We often criticize the mainstream media for turning Asian men into desexualized caricatures, but the situation is much worse in gay culture.  "There's already so much emphasis on physical beauty within gay male culture," says Ian, a 36-year-old Asian New Yorker who has had long-term relationships with both whites and Asians.  "It's even harder for gay Asian men who do not fit the very narrow standard of what is considered desirable -- the muscle-bound, hyper-masculine look."  Ian now describes himself as "very sticky," but he'd count himself in the minority.  "The fact is most white men are not attracted to Asian men, and worse, Asian men are not attracted to each other."

As a reformed potato queen myself, one for whom race is now the least important factor in whom I date and love, I am optimistic that there's hope for us all.  As Asian Americans assert themselves more in the media and as the number of real-life role models increase, I believe that more gay Asian men will be able to realize that they can be as beautiful, sexy, attractive and desirable as any blond-haired, blue-eyed hunk.

 
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Gay Asian Men Separated By The Gay Society (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 23 @ 01:17:18 EDT
Jason Chang was quite clear on his depiction of Asian men for the reasons why
white men are only attracted to Asians, if they are older than what other
white men prefer. Also Asian men are attracted to what ever white man they
can find that would be attracted to them, regardless of age, social status,
and or physical attributes. I find in my years of going to social events and
the gay club scene that Asian men are attracted to white men for many reasons,
not only are they because Asian men are conditioned in such a way only to be
attracted to white men. Many of the social conditioning involves physical
attributes as well as psychological makeup of each Asian men. As physical
attributes goes, Asian men are attracted to muscular straight acting and or
broad shouldered white guy. Most of us Asians have learned that since most of
us cannot attain some of those physical and sexual attractiveness we therefore
are drawn to white men. In Asian culture I believe that Asians have been
exposed to many of the western cultures lifestyles and social interactions.
Since the media plays a big role in this stereotypical depiction of gay Asian
men, we are left with a society that is steered towards beauty and sexual
prowess only found in Caucasian men.

In many of today's society race has been separated by not only physical,
psychological & social status, but of sexual attributes as well. The club
scene and in many social gatherings Asian men has been seen as being small
effeminate types that are only attractive to those seeking such and are so
call rice queens. That being said most of this leads to the sexual
attraction, and the false perception that all Asian men are small musculature
and have small penises. With this thought we are given the sense of that we
have so many stereotypes facing us that many white guys are not attracted to
us as well as Asian men. I'm not saying here that most Asian men are size
queens, but lets face it, how many Asian or white men have we come across and
said size is not an issue here. Just look at the sex personals etc., all the
advertisement we see are in regards to their size and physical sexual
attributes. Frankly the media again plays a role not only in separating the
races but also giving many the false sense of sexual attributes that most
ethnic backgrounds have. The other day I was browsing through the internet,
and stumbled, well popped up on screen "how to enlarge your penis" web page.
With some curiosity I entered and looked around, I came across a size chart or
say a survey of penis size. Lets not think I'm emphasizing this sexual
content but, in all honesty isn't that basically one of the stereotypes. The
survey gave the sizes of men around the world, Asian men being at the bottom
of the list. Not only did this survey reinforce some misunderstood facts
about Asians but also the condom manufacturers states this as a fact. Again
this set fire to my thoughts, how can such a survey take place with many of
the white or non Asian culture taking most of the credit of being the largest.
This is truly not an accurate survey since we know that many people do
exaggerate their size, that found a new survey did come up and has been stated
as the truth, around the world. So for you size queens out there, no one
culture is larger than the other, so if your average (5.5 - 5.75) be happy.

By personal experience through the years, I've come across so many stereotypes
finding why Asians to some eyes are undesirable and why Asian men are
attracted to white guys, disgust me. For the small percentage of us being
gay, why can't we still figure out a way to erase all the stereotype and be
attracted to a race not because of stereotypical reaso

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Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Saturday, November 30 @ 00:07:11 EST
Dear Mr. Chang,

I found your article interesting if not somewhat demeaning to that class of people such as myself who are Irish/Americans. It is neat to try to fit the gay experience into a small cubby hole of typing races. Many people are attracted to different kinds of people in terms of their looks and backgrounds. My tradition has never found any race particularly superior to another. All of my Asian friends are people of high education and many accomplishments. I prefer Asian men because of my many positive experiences with them. I also find Asian men to be the most handsome in my limited experience. There is no real "truth"; some persons prefer their own, others venture out. My greatest desire would be to find an Asian man for a lasting relationship. It has not happened but I have not given up. I am an older man, so I guess you would classify me as one of the less wanted kind. In any case, I wish you the very best. Joe McCarthy, Hollywood, California



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by Ian on Monday, December 02 @ 01:23:05 EST
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It's Sunday and Thanksgiving dinner ended a few days ago. Now, I have a paper due this Friday. It's about interracial dating among Caucasian and Asian gay men. After searching online for a few minutes, I came across this article. I find this article very informative. I believe that Mr. Chan tried his best to write this article to the best of his ability.
Since my "serious relationships" were with only Caucasian men in the past 4 years (I'm 20 years old as of Nov 2002), I want to figure out for myself the reasons behind it. Writing a paper about it for my Asian American Studies class should help me identify those reasons.
Well, if Mr. Chan is reading this (or anyone who would like to share their opinion about this matter) by December 5, 2002, please send me an email at chris_qwert@yahoo.com Thanks!



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by majigei on Friday, September 28 @ 23:22:54 EDT
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I don't think this problem has as much to do with "desexualized" asian men as it does with the plight of the minority, or infatuation with hegemony. I lived in Japan for years and the situation was exactly the opposite: foreign men were fighting and backstabbing each other for the locals. In fact, I knew not one white-white couple within the vast foreign community in Tokyo.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Sunday, January 05 @ 05:18:23 EST
I accidentally got to this website and i find it very interesting. Reading this article made me realize that the white race is the universal accepted form of beauty since ancient times.The greek statues, for example portrayed what was beautiful, the chiseled face, the perfect nose, the muscular body...Asians where always a mystery...asians where of a different realm, appreciated for their culture and wisdom, asians did not prioritize "beauty" as a main ingredient for attraction, rather the being itself...the physical form was always kept a mystery...women were always covered in unflattering costumes as well as men...we see this in art ...with other asians ( the islanders) beauty is seen through their rituals and status. I think, in my opinion, the west has created the idea of what is beautiful and sexy since it was a priority in their cultures and through generations remained consistent in promoting this idea, influencing civilization itself.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by Ruskiboi90 on Monday, March 16 @ 15:17:46 EDT
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I am actually a mixed white/Native American allthough by looking at me you would never guess that I was anything but white.

I guess that I haven't ever really noticed what was mentioned above. I am one of those people that was mentioned before that really doesn't hold any predjudices against anyone else. I have hooked up with mostly white guys and I have to say I am completely dissatisfied with them.

I have always liked asian men but have never dated one. That could be because I haven't found any that are gay that live around me. I have never actuallly even thought of an asian being the "woman" not that that's even possible to begin with besides I like to be on the bottom.

I guess I go against the stereotypes completely. I don't really have a racial preference, it really is just about the individual guy...if he happens to be asian, white, latin, whatever it's all the same to me.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by Ruskiboi90 on Monday, March 16 @ 15:25:36 EDT
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I just posted something but I feel that I have to add this as well...personally I think that asians are beautiful. Quite a lot more so than many white men.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by imkookoo on Saturday, June 28 @ 18:32:05 EDT
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Times have changed and the tables have turned. The majority still rules but at least they are now more aware of the minority. I am satisfied. But what has come of the end? The problem just shifted toward the victims of the past oppressors... or maybe it was always there and the decrease of discrimination by the majority makes this problem even more apparent.

I speak of racism BY the minorities. Obviously racism extends to all people regardless of minority/majority level, but racism BY the minorities towards THEMSELVES?

A lot of my Asian friends are VERY quick to notice if they're in a room with a majority of Asian people. They point out the fact very clearly. "Oh look! A family reunion!" Not once, but every single time, if the occasion is a repeated one. Who, may I ask, cares? French people don't go around everywhere in France saying "Oh look! A family reunion!!" European Ameircans (not even rice queens) don't care when they go into a chatroom, a meeting, etc in a group predominantly European American.

The other day at "Gay Skate," there was a little group of "sticky rice" Asians. Was it a surprise that the same friends were very quick to notice that? With a disgusted face: "Is that group STICKY RICE?" What about when there's a group of potato queens? With the same logic, they are equally disgusting, no?

I am talking to a friend about a conversation with this guy I had a little crush on in Korean class last quarter. The conversation with my friend went like this:

Me (excited): Oooo, yesterday, after class, I went to the HUB and I bumped into a really hot guy from my Korean class!!!
Asian friend: Oh.... is he white?
Me: Nope.. he's Korean...
Asian friend: Nevermind, he's not worth it...

Just kidding? Ha ha? No... he changed the subject after that. What the hell was that? That wasn't even subtle....

Go to any Seattle chatroom..... I am willing to wager that more than 75% of all the Asians in there have in their profile: White only.

I'm living in the 50's as a black man.

I do not belive that ALL of those 75% nor all of my friends who just dig white guys have this issue of racism. Some really are just attracted physically to white guys. but a lot of them actually feel like they're higher in status, better, or just NOT disgusting because they date a white guy.

Even the physical attraction toward -just- white guys is a problem, but I understand it's something hard to surpass and look through. We were all bombarded with media images of predominantly white guys. I, myself, growing up in Las Vegas and military bases (I hardly went offbase at all in my youth) was only attracted to white guys.. I always fantasized about being with a white guy. I made future plans with a white guy. It took one vacation to Korea with my mom and a little open-mindedness to "discover" races outside white in general.

What's so wrong with an Asian dating another Asian? If that happens, does it HAVE to mean that they are always "sticky rice"? What's wrong with being "sticky rice" anyways?

Nothing's wrong with being potato queen either, as long as you just have I'm-attracted-to-white-boys fever and not Anything-other-than-white-is-a-disgrace fever.

I know some that realize that they have at least some of these problems, but they have it so ingrained in their heads, they don't realize what they're doing sometimes. At least they catch themselves; there's hope for these people.

The others have a long road ahead of 'em.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by akj on Sunday, July 11 @ 00:54:37 EDT
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this article is so interesting its the issue i always wondered about as a gay asian
guy who lives in western country
well i didnt really think about the issue so
seriously before, but after i and my friend moved to
toronto from vancouver canada we easily noticed
that in eastcoast asian gay guys are not as popular as asian guys in west coast and i also noticed there are alot
less "rice queens"in east coast than west coast gay scene. that was the moment i started wondering about the issue
and whenever im in newyork or la i always
notice the clear difference between eastcoast and westcoast in the sense that asian gay guys dont seem to be as popular in eastcoast as asian guys in westcoast even in us i always wanted to
meet someone who can analize it ...
well anyway i moved to europe then i noticed that
in europe most of gay guys i've seen do not really have a certain racial preference when they go out
with someone i started to wonder from the moment i noticed it
why are gay guys who are atracted to asian guys only the "rice queens" who we consider gay guys who only exclusively date asians in the us and in canada? can anyone analise this ? im still trying
to figure out




Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by hapaboySF on Sunday, October 10 @ 13:09:12 EDT
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Touche. Great article. I'm the product of an inter-racial relationship and at 42 it took me until I was 28 to realize how much 'gook geek' I'd internalized ... I'd only slept/dated White men for 11 years back then - now, in a natural process of emotional development, my attraction shifted to ONLY Asian men! Suffice to say I could write a book on the racist issue of being 'half white' and the access and 'beauty' I get for being mixed ... but let's just stay at .. wow ... I love living in SF and going to websites like www.fridae.com that are just FULL of stunning men from Asia ... yum yum yum ... be well all.

- Kenji



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by JohnBuckLINY on Monday, August 30 @ 18:04:09 EDT
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For the record -- according to my boyfriend, who (since it opened) was both an employee at, and a regular patron of -- the Web (on the UES of NYC): The Web never had an Asians-only cover charge. Whites and non-whites always paid the same amount at the door.


  • Wrong! by hapaboySF on Sunday, October 10 @ 12:58:30 EDT

Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by Jurgen74 on Friday, September 17 @ 16:51:06 EDT
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I'm an 30 year old gay Chinese guy living in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. This article is an eye-opener to me and i thank you for that. In Holland i struggle with the same problems and i think many gay asians men here do too. Problem indeed is that we don't have any rolmodels. We just don't know en don't believe that there are attractive asian gay men out there. We asians look through white male eyes and we think that other asian gays are all feminine and submisive to white male. This has to stop. I don't believe that i'm the only one who can be open minded towards other asian gays. So from now on i keep my eyes open for gay asian men.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by eaststar on Friday, January 07 @ 14:45:32 EST
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It's been four years since I wrote this article for aMagazine and I've been both surprised and gratified at its reach and impact. The editor of aMagazine told me that the article generated more response from readers than any other in the publication's history, and for whatever reason, it defintely touched some nerves. I am glad that it has prompted thought, introspection and discussion.

Not much has changed since I wrote the article -- I still meet many gay Asian men who tell me that they could never date another Asian. The road to self-acceptance remains a long and difficult one.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by guysjeep on Sunday, June 05 @ 21:25:45 EDT
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I 'm an attractive American born Asian man, and I don't think your article applies to us American Asians. I find Asian men to be hot! I have dated hot Asian and White men, and I love it. The Asians I have dated are also American born. Perhaps the phenomenom applies to foreign born Asians more.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by davidals on Sunday, September 11 @ 09:47:15 EDT
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Very interesting article; I've seen it posted in other places and am very glad that it's out there to be read.

I could very much identify with most, if not all of the contents. I'm African-American/Black; I am often driven to distraction by how overwhelmingly standards of attractiveness completely revolve around white guys - I recall flipping through a copy of OUT Magazine recently, and seeing one African-American guy (in an ad for HIV meds), and an Asian guy in a credit card ad, and that was it. It seems that the gay community - at least in the U.S. - has internalized the overall racism in our society and amplified it in the strangest of ways - if you are non-white, you are either an object of fetish, or you are absolutely unwanted, regardless of your virtues.

Of my recent relationships, three were with Asian men - one Chinese, one Indian, one Japanese and I've never seen another couple that looked like us, on either occasion - it turned into a running private joke between us. At least in some parts of the U.S. - if not all - the sexuality of African-Americans is grossly caricatured, and we often fall into the "last picked for the team" category. And in the wake of my recent relationships and friendships, I am quite familiar with the just-as-distorted stereotypes directed at Asian men, whose sexuality is often not taken seriously to the same degree. I know that African-American gay men often are beset with very low expectations, low self-esteem, generalized internal homophobia, and a sense of being rejected by just about everyone, which goes a long way in explaining the varied crises that affect the African-American part of the gay community. I think - to varied degrees - this may be true throughout gay minority communities. I feel strongly that we should be beyond having to fight these battles now - at this late date, we should be on to other issues; the continued persistence of anachronistic racial hang-ups in the gay community is depressing, and comments very unfavorably upon our community.

It can't entirely be blamed on the media, or white people (blame is a little silly anyway, in the absence of constructive critiques), though I wish that more of us would push for a more balanced and mindful putlook on the diversity within the gay world - lip service from our leaders is not enough.

In any case, in my last relationships, the looks of shock we got from black men, white men (especially older), other Asian men, anyone...were beyond belief; sad and comical. I also am well aware that there's also a subculture of often older white men who are really into black guys, and I've been at the receiving end of at least a few truly-mind-boggling pick-up attempts from a few of them. You wonder if someone seriously is attempting to turn you into some sort of exotic house pet.

I am very glad to see some non-white writers and activists slowly take up this cause; there are many discussions that the gay community should be having, but isn't. We all have our preferences, but I reserve the freedom to date who I like, and I make an effort to reject social conditioning that may do me more harm than good, and (as I've dated men of many ethnicities, perrty much guided by individual personality over anything else) I always make an effort to be aware of difference and diversity, and treat those I encounter with respect.



Re: The Truth About Gay Asian Men (Score: 1)
by ROG on Sunday, April 06 @ 22:25:31 EDT
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this quote really hit me and i just thought i would elaborate on it:..."To be honest, I see other Asian guys as competition," said Paul, a 28-year-old Filipino American. "I can be friends with other Asian guys, but I'll never date them." Chris, a 26-year-old Chinese American living in Philadelphia has also experienced the cold shoulder from other gay Asians. "Many of the Asian guys here don't acknowledge my existence in the bars; they see me as competition for the few white men that are attracted to Asians"

i thought this was true because i've just recently acknowledge i'm gay and opened myself up to my friends. i've been out clubbing quite a bit and noticed this trend myself. i never knew it existed. i, myself, like asians, whites, latino, blacks...etc and i do not have a preference. anywho, i'll share a recent event that happened to me because i'm a "whore." ...i've only been to this club a couple of times since it was open. so one night my friend and i went there. we had just entered the club and headed for the dance floor when gary (white guy) approached me. gary and i conversated while walking throughout the club. when i excused myself to the restroom, i came into contact with other asian men who were anything but nice. after i refreshed myself, one of the asian guy even went as far as calling gary a "man whore and slut." i couldn't believe what they're saying...it was just so upfront. but i didn't listen any further and just kept on walking back to gary. we conversated and danced for a bit then my friend and i left. (i feel that it is inapproiate to give out my number to anyone...and i never carry my phone with me either so it helps my cause.) fastforward a week, when my friend and i returned back to the club, i found out a couple of big suprises. 1: that i was a whore (i was a virgin then and now 2008) 2: that another asian guy wanted to beat me up because i talked to his fantasy man (gary) 3: that i was a potato queen ( i had no idea what it meant then) 4: that i was dating gary and this other asian guy was also seeing him and he's not happy about it) 5: i should like the "white guy???" who likes me and not go after someone else's. and 6: i should not come back to the club because i have a reputation and everyone knows about it.

i thought it was increditable. it even caused gary to approach me and in his mind yell at me because i caused the whole event. i just could not believe it. it was horrible. however, i didn't worry about it because it was un true. one of my friend that i meet there occasionally, enlighten me about the situation and the root of it. he told me that gary was in rage because i had made some remarks about him being a rice queen (he was 23 and i was 21). anywho, long story short, gary found out later who said what and who was involved and admitted to me that he was ashamed that he yelled and accused me of such injust. i accepted his apology and he asked for a second chance but i declined. now when we see eachother, we simply wave hi. i also avoid going near a group or groups of asian men because it makes me feel really umcomfortable.

on a different note, i've talked to other asian men but have only found out that they "prefer" white men. i ask: if you prefer white men, would you date an asian man?...the answer: no. i see that the choice is not a preference but rather a specific race...so the language needs to change from i prefer white men or i give preference to white men to i will only date or marry a white man.

lastly, it's hard enough beening gay, then to be marginalized again by being asian...then to have other asians see me as a competition or only a friend but never a date or possibly a romantic lover. it hurts.


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