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Propaganda vs. Real Life in America
Posted by Andrew on Monday, July 26 @ 10:00:00 EDT
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Society By Winston Wu
Special to ModelMinority.com
July 26, 2004

As we all know, the propaganda in America is that our country is a land of freedom and opportunity where anyone can be what they want to be, live their dreams, be the best they can be, become rich and successful, and live the American dream of owning a home. This idea is incessantly conveyed by our media, education system, politics, and government. It is a necessary illusion to keep everyone functioning in their place. And we are constantly fed success stories of individuals who thrive here.

However, here's the big picture. The reality is that in America, only a few people truly live the American dream. Those at the top who control the flow of economic resources and production capital (in socialist philosophy terms, they are referred to as the “haute bourgeoisie” class) are also the ones who get most of the resource flow even though they don't need it. And it's not just with the CEO's. The top sports players and top Hollywood stars in this country who get 20 million dollars per film or per season are easily getting extraordinary amounts of money that they don't even need. That's how things have always worked, especially in a capitalist country. Karl Marx’s prediction that capitalism would fail probably would have came true if a middle class hadn't been created in this country to act as a buffer zone between the high and low classes, giving the low class an incentive to move up to something higher so that they won't overthrow those in power. (Some intellectual historians, such as Zinn and Chomsky, have even argued that colleges and universities were created to create a middle class.)

In reality, the majority of people in this country live in slavery to their jobs just so they can keep up with never-ending bills and make ends meet. They will never live the American dream. They live mind-numbing lives in mind-numbing environments (such as suburban America) that do not cultivate intellectual or spiritual growth at all. Most people in America work at least 8 hours a day at a full time job, and what little time is left at the end of the day is spent at home with their families, making dinner, getting children ready for bed, and then going to bed to start the next day the same way again. There isn't really enough time for people to develop themselves intellectually or spiritually. And that’s why mainstream Americans do not seem as evolved or enlightened as mainstream Europeans for example, to put it bluntly (no offense to anyone intended). Europeans in general obviously have a lot more soul and intellect than average Americans.

As a result, the people who thrive on intellectual or spiritual growth often struggle and feel alienated in mainstream America, because the lifestyle, environment and conditions don’t cultivate such things. Instead, they cultivate a staunch conformist and materialistic mentality. Just look at the general architecture in America such as suburban homes, strip malls, corporate buildings, franchise stores, etc. and you will see that it all symbolizes and represents a conformist creed and mentality. America in comparison to other countries seriously lacks any culture or soul. It’s all about money and business for most people. People’s youths are wasted slaving away for the production capital owners just so they can retire in their 50’s or 60’s. Not only that, but the school system in America is designed to prepare children to become dollar commodities. They do not help them grow as human beings at all.

In order to keep them motivated with these conditions, American workers are encouraged to go to church (black slave owners in the 19th century also encouraged their slaves to go to church, using religion to give them something to live for and feel content in their position so they wouldn't rebel), read self-help/New Age books, to go out and buy material things (sometimes on credit) that give them a temporary fleeting sense of satisfaction, indulge in junk food, and of course are given daily network media entertainment in the form of television shows that are complete trash in quality and substance. These are all ways that our society distracts and stimulates the majority of people so they can maintain their meager existence in a mind-numbing consumerist society, and serve the interests of those at the top.

These things are well known to many foreigners. For example, a Russian girl from Moscow I corresponded with had this to say about the USA:

Elvira:
To be honest i don't like usa at all, i can move there but only if it is strongly needed (if i fall for an american). Many of my friends was there (with families or for student exchange Work&travel usa) and say something similar to: "they have no culture, but the money... money and nothing more is interesting for them," doesnt sound inspiring..

Perceptions like hers are a lot more common than you might think. In fact, I’ve heard similar views from many Europeans. I’d estimate that about 80 to 90 percent of Europeans feel that way about our lifestyle. Now, America may be a great country in its principles and concepts about democracy and freedom. However, the way people actually live in America is quite different. Most people spend most of their time in cars, houses, and corporate buildings. They have no time or interest in cultivating their soul or intellect. And the few who do cultivate their souls or intellect are seen as weird and nonconformist by the majority.

That's one reason why so many people in my country feel empty, and seek distractions in shallow stimulation. They don't know what else to do. Some don't even realize that they feel empty, because they just get keep busy distracting themselves with something. And plus, you aren't supposed to feel empty if you have a job, house, and family, which represent the ideal life. Nevertheless, many in my country live a thin line from becoming easily depressed or mentally ill. Now, I don’t blame the American people themselves for this. It isn’t their fault, but rather the system they live under. They are just people trying to make the best out of their circumstances according to the system set in place.

Contrary to the propaganda given publicly about America, in reality the American lifestyle (for the most part) is MIND-NUMBING and ISOLATING. And the myth of “individual freedom” for all in America is just that, a myth, perpetuated to appease and motivate the masses of people, making each person feel important. In reality, the materialistic lifestyle system in America from every angle pretty much PRESSURES and DEMANDS us all into CONFORMITY. Whether it’s conformity to your school, workplace, team, peers, friends, etc. the fundamental underlying principle in American life, business and politics is conform, conform, conform! Otherwise, you feel in danger of feeling unaccepted and inadequate, as if you’re not a complete person, which is what most people fear. If you look at the big picture of how things are in America and the lifestyle of mainstream people, you will see how the principle of CONFORMITY is at the root core of almost everything we do. And you will see that “individual freedom” and “self-expression” is just hyped garbage that has nothing to do with how things run here. There is very little room or reward for true creativity or self-expression in America. As a consequence, the environment and social conditions we live under in America forces you to adopt a conformist mentality, rather than a creative one. The reason that conformity is mandated is simple. An individual alone does not have the resources or power to really do anything, even to survive. Instead, the individual must join and CONFORM to some type of COLLECTIVE body, organization, or group with such resources that will support him/her in order to function or achieve anything.

In fact, conformity is even more important than honesty. And contrary to the old adage, honesty has never been the best policy. In fact, honesty often gets you into trouble and is used against you. But conformity gets you much farther. What this means is that being yourself can get you into trouble, but pretending to conform gets you accepted. That is a very sad state of affairs.

One of the places where this is the most true is in corporate America, where conformity is the bottom line. Within corporate America, you can easily sense and smell the vibes and energy that spell “conformity, conformity, conformity”. There’s no question about it. Inside corporate America, those who can’t conform or don’t know how to, or are too individualistic or expressive, are not considered “a good fit” and thrown out to become losers with no income. In fact, it’s usually true that those who are able to conform well to an organization or corporation have a much easier time making money and making ends meet, while those who have problems conforming usually have constant financial problems and face a constant uphill battle to make ends meet. Therefore, that more than anything means that those who conform are rewarded while those who don’t are punished in America. That’s why I say that America is all about conformity. And that’s why our public schools try their best to make students conform to their system, even if it goes against the kids’ nature. It’s simply for their own good.

Even my own dad, who has always led a very stable life, admitted that I was right about this. In an email, he wrote:

Dear Win,

I totally agree with this. Conformity is the key to success and accepted in the society, not the right or wrong issue, not so much about be yourself, or unnecessary honest.

Dad

Now, I don’t mean to generalize here. I know that America is a diverse place, but in the big picture of things, that is how it is. And to make things worse, most people in America don’t like people who are different than them which fosters the need to conform even further. Perhaps the conformist mentality we are forced to adopt in America contributes to a general dislike of what is different? Who knows? But this is especially true in California where I grew up. There, even among the diverse populations of minorities (whites are now a minority there, by the way), most people prefer to affiliate and date only within their own race, making it one of the most racist places in the world socially speaking (though not politically speaking of course).

To make things worse, the few who thrive in this system are given all the praise and glory, whereas those who don't thrive in these conditions are PERSECUTED, directly and indirectly, in many ways. They are made to feel inadequate, since they are compared to others who thrive, and deprived of resources and social status. They are also told either directly or indirectly that there is something wrong with them. It's an unfair ungodly punishment on those who don't thrive or fit in or find a niche in our society. This constant psychological pressure is what makes our egos in America so fragile since we are constantly compared with others, forcing us to compete with them. That combined with our individualistic isolationist values makes it even worse, causing mental illness, loneliness, and many to be dysfunctional. Our economic system and culture is Darwinistic in nature. Those who thrive are rewarded, while those who don't are unfairly punished and/or persecuted, and not because they did anything wrong. Many artists and creative people, unfortunately, fall into this latter category.

In fact, I think that nowhere else in the world are people who don't fit in are as harshly and coldly persecuted (by society, not by the government) as in America. It's no wonder that we have the highest rate of mental illness in this country, and that most of the serial killers in the world are from America too. Do you think that’s due to pure random coincidence? I don’t think so. It’s because simply, no one country or economic system brings out the best in everyone. Contrary to what American propagandists say about our country being the ideal land where “all” people have a better life and can make their dreams come true, the reality is that America brings out the worst in some people. It’s just a fact of life and a fact of nature.

Clearly, America's culture, lifestyle, values, and mentality are almost completely materialistic in nature. The country is almost completely controlled and run by industries of mass consumerism. These aggregate industrial powers in America control everything; capital, resources, jobs, politics, your lifestyle, your freedom, your values, your culture, etc. in more ways than you know. Their power, control, and influence are completely insurmountable. They're here to stay, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. In most cases, the US no longer has to use military power to conquer other nations. It can just control them economically in a variety of ways to get what they want out of them, using propaganda for excuses to do so. As a result, the other countries of the world, in order to compete, are also forced to adopt more materialistic values and consumer-driven systems as well. (Already, much of Asia has fallen into a highly materialistic-driven lifestyle and mentality, e.g. Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc. while Europe, Russia, South America, and Africa generally still have very soul-driven, cultured and family-oriented mentalities and lifestyles, fortunately.)

Therefore, we can conclude that the US has led and made the world much more materialistic minded than it once was. That's one of the reasons why so many foreigners and intellectuals dislike or are critical of America, which our media never ever talks about. Our media NEVER broadcasts any counter-culture viewpoints, ever, but only viewpoints which are conventional, clicheish, politically correct, and that reflect a materialistic mentality (it would probably be over the typical media puppet's head and intellect to do so anyway). Therefore, there is almost no diversity of viewpoint broadcast in our media, contrary to the diversity that exists in real life. Some think that is a good thing of course, with all the technological improvements and comforts that capitalism has brought. However, in my travels and experience with people, materialistic people are just not as evolved, interesting, happy, or pleasant to be around as non-materialistic people. And don’t think I’m alone either, a lot of people I’ve met have similar observations. Also, having a strong materialistic lifestyle and outlook is the antithesis to the soul and intellect. Furthermore, what is the point of slaving away your whole life just so you can have freedom in your retirement age? The precious years of youth are wasted in such conditions. It makes no sense, and almost no one in retrospect is glad they did so. These issues are subjective of course, but that's my opinion on it.

Another thing I've noticed is that in America, people judge their lives by their career status. On the other hand, the European mentality is to evaluate life the kind of experiences one has had. I tend to evaluate myself by the standards of the latter. In much of Europe, in work situations you get 2 hour lunch breaks, many jobs end around 4pm, and you get a LOT more time off throughout the year. Health insurance is also free there. In the Middle East, I've heard that you would almost have to commit a felon to be fired. And even if you didn't show up for work, all they would do is dock your pay. You can come back later and have your job back. America has way too much of a career oriented mentality. Those type of values may have helped make America rich economically, but they've degraded the population's soul, including their quality of life, and their spiritual and intellectual development.

Competition is the basis of our culture and economy, and therefore becomes our mentality as well. This means that people either have money, or they are striving to be better than everyone else. This competitive mentality eventually leads us to become more "stuck up" toward others than we would otherwise be. We evaluate others in terms of their worth, and compare ourselves to them. This creates a rivalry mentality that leads fellow human beings in our country to see each other as opponents or adversaries. And sadly enough, having a lot of money and material possessions changes your attitude toward others, making you more spoiled and "stuck up."

On the other hand, countries like Russia are accustomed to a more socialistic system that is less individualistic and competitive in nature. Therefore, people's mentality and attitude are going to be different obviously. In poor countries, people don't have as much money and material possessions, so therefore they are not so spoiled and "stuck up" as people in capitalist countries. What they lack in material assets, they make up for in personality and soulfulness. It's a simple trade-off here. In the US, it's vice versa of course. Therefore, it is not realistic to expect them to be the same as us (and thank goodness for that). And that's one reason why people in general in Russia are more open and friendly. Therefore, the major factor in why Russian women are so much friendlier and open has to do with the economic/social system they live under and the mentality it produces, and not because they are desperate to leave their country.

Let's face the dreaded politically incorrect reality here. In America, everything is all about MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. It's always the bottom line, no matter how you try to sweet talk around it or look at things through rose colored glasses. Now I'm not saying it's all everyone thinks about, nor am I saying that it's all that is important either. What I am saying is that it pretty much CONTROLS, RUNS, and GOVERNS everything that functions, runs, operates, etc. in life and society. Not that it should be that way of course, but that's how it is. The power of the almighty dollar rules in our society. Now, deep down in our SOULS, we know that it SHOULDN'T be that way. And in our spirits, we know that God did not intend for life to be all about money. But the problem is, that's how things really ARE right now. That's how things are set up to run and operate in this world. It's part of a global large scale system that no one can do anything about, and everyone has to conform to. So we have to live and deal with it. Therefore, we have no choice but to conform to it in order to live, function, pay bills, feed our families, have free time, do what we want to do, and retire someday.

Now the thing is, most of the rest of the world outside of America is still not as materialistic minded as we are. Most other countries do not see career and money as the ultimate aim and aspiration of existence like we do. They simply don't have to! In many countries, people's mentalities are focused around culture and family solidarity. However, due to America's economic influence, expansion, imperialism, etc. over the world, and the tendency of US foreign policy to try to convert the rest of the world to become like us (under the name of democracy and freedom), the rest of the world is fast becoming like us (not that they should anyway). (For some reason, our foreign policy makers and propagandists think that we are the role model for the rest of the world to copy and emulate.) Hence, the rest of the world is fast becoming consumption driven, materialistic minded, and capitalist in structure. Eventually, people in other countries will also be forced to center their existence around money and career too. They will have no choice. And it will be all in the name of "progress." It's a sad state of affairs. But that's what the mechanized impersonal capitalist systems that control the flow of all resources and capital is turning the world into. Just look at how things have developed in the world over the past century, and you will see how obvious this all is.

Now, on a deeper note, I happen to believe in karma, and also in the Greek and Chinese saying that "everything should be in moderation." Therefore, I feel that extreme things when prolonged, eventually collapse and result in a major toppling shift at some point. This means that our extreme "life is all about money" principle is too unnatural to sustain forever, and that at some point eventually, there will be a radical reformation or revolution of the status quo of some sort, whether karmic or pragmatic in nature. In other words, the imbalance of all this prolonged must inevitably cause some sort of upsurge of the status quo, whether mentally, spiritually, or economically. The system we have is just too unnatural and imbalanced to sustain forever in my view. I am not trying to make any specific prophecies here, just my general observation on the big picture of things.

 
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Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by Iconoclastic on Monday, July 26 @ 12:42:08 EDT
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Grass is always greener on the other side.



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by Marky on Monday, July 26 @ 13:35:18 EDT
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I agree. I like this comment:

[i]Already, much of Asia has fallen into a highly materialistic-driven lifestyle and mentality, e.g. Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc. while Europe, Russia, South America, and Africa generally still have very soul-driven, cultured and family-oriented mentalities and lifestyles, fortunately.[/i]

What the #@$ is he talking about? Are Bolivia and Rwanda more family oriented than the US? He has an interesting definition of "family oriented."



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by GeoffDB on Monday, July 26 @ 15:50:13 EDT
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America was never founded to be an equal society. It was explicitely designed to exclude anyone who is not white.

America has great potential, but it has too many flaws. Even the statutory laws and constitutional amendments that have been enacted to create equality needed to be watered down by conservative racist white people who do not want to cede full power to the federal government.

When people of color attempt to assimilate into American society, it is important to realize that complete assimilation carries with it America's origional sin: racism.

When Asians think of America, they think of white people.

When Asians think of liabilties that America carries, they think of African-Americans.

Even though black culture in this country has many white-initiated stereotypes and unequal treatment, it still falls on people of color to prove themselves more "American".

I wish I could explain to Asian-Americans that they can assimilate without being all-things-white. Problem is this: when I offer this suggestion, I am stepping on too many Asian toes.

I wish I could offer the argument of "divide and conquer", but for the most part Asian-Americans have already chosen their side and criticizing white people hits too close to home for many of them.

White supremacy has been facilitated by white and Asian people for far too long in this country.

We are not a land of freedom. We are a land of white and "white-like" domination.



Listen to you people (Score: 1)
by 3line on Monday, July 26 @ 17:44:18 EDT
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Heaping praise upon this pompous windbag of a mail-order bride king. I can't believe that you people even stand to hear this idiot talk, after all the elitist twinkie bullcrap he said in his article on those "uncivilized" Taiwanese and their bad table manners.

I find it amusing that this Winston miscreant bitches about the materialistic nature of American society when in the next breath he goes on and on about how Russians worship him and love his *****. What do you think bought him that respect from an impoverished nation falling apart at the seams? It couldn't be the fact that the USA is the premier capitalist power in the world, could it? Naaw, couldn't be.

This twinkie's entire article on Taiwan consisted of him bitching about how the Taiwanese didn't treat him like a white American (of course, in contrast to Russia where he can just throw his money around and get treated like a GOD). It sickens me to hear any talk capitalistic evils from an aristocratic, profiteering white-wannabe like this Winston.



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by minotaar on Monday, July 26 @ 18:11:24 EDT
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Europe is not a cultured place. Dont think for a moment that the 9-5 workday makes us less cultured than those arrogant bourgeois slackabouts who take a whole month off in august.

The US might not seem better, but its what you're used to. If you, winston, actually took the time to weigh the differences in "culture" you'd find that we're probably just as well off. an 8 hour workday is not all that bad when it comes to living your own life outside the office. And if you think that putting the kids to bed and sleeping another 16 hrs covers the rest of it, perhaps you rushed into a marriage too early.



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by dsfusion on Tuesday, July 27 @ 13:32:30 EDT
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If you think people in Europe are not materialsitic you are definitely wrong. Just remmeber where Guuci, Prada, Lambragini, and other luxury items come from (Europe). The fact of the matter is everyone is guilty of materialsim and apathy. But its only in America you get the chance to choose your life. Your future is not predetermined by a rigid class system. Here you don't have to worry whether you are on friendly terms with government officals or came from a well known family. All you need is patient, hardwork, and luck.

Don't get too over idealized with European grandeurs and their supposed mannerism. There are racists over there too. Just flip on to a BBC channel and you'll hear the Asians being called "Chinaman" and "funny looking fellow."



Look, peeps (Score: 1)
by 3line on Tuesday, July 27 @ 17:22:41 EDT
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Read this guy's other article "Postcard from Taiwan." It will provide far more insight into this person's deranged psyche.

http://www.modelminority.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=808

"Also, regarding table manners, it is one of the areas of life in Taiwan which has not become civilized. Many have bad table manners, and spit things out of their mouth when they eat in front of others. And many of the meat and chicken dishes still show heads, hands, feet, and fingers. Very inappropriate by western standards. I have been told it is a quirk in Taiwanese life. While Taiwan has modernized in other areas, it hasn't in table etiquette."

"There seems to be an inherent nature in Taiwanese people to be very petty and anal-retentive even about the smallest things. It's like some of them don't feel alive unless they are petty or anal about something. It's very strange, but that's a pattern I've noticed, even among my family and relatives there."

"Also, I do not think this society is mentally healthy. Most people here are governed by two emotions, fear and guilt. Parents control their children obsessively through guilt. People are often judgmental and critical of others, because of low self-esteem. And they are extremely introverted and shy for some reason. It seems that only little children and old people in Taiwan are outgoing and talkative. The young people between 13 and 30 seem too shy, introverted, and conservative. People here are also very prudish. They do not like to touch other people, they do not like to hug their parents, friends, etc. Even most married people in Taiwan do not say "I love you" to each other. And many couples never kiss on the mouth, even in private! Can you believe that? Also, for some reason, people, especially girls are afraid to be touched. They are like scared stray cats that are afraid to be petted. It is extreme. Asians obviously have an ultra-sensitive nervous system and low self-confidence too. All these things to me, are examples reflecting a mentally unhealthy society."

"A lot of you don't understand where I'm coming from. In Russia, I was treated like a celebrity, given high social status, had lots of girlfriends who looked like models, etc. When I'm used to that, it's hard to get used to being treated like lowly crap in Taiwan. That's where I'm coming from."


And finally, a letter of appreciation from one of his MOB clients:
"Yesterday I went to see Nutcracker Ballet with a beautiful 26 year old Minsk girl I have been writing emails to. She held my hands and treated me most tenderly. Almost like a boyfriend she loves. Wow!!! Imagine that. I am a 46 year old Asian American guy who had NO American girlfriends, no sex with white American girls and of course no marriage and no family in all my life in USA. I could scarcely believe I was not dreaming throughout that date. It was so unreal that this beautiful girl treated me so well."



It seems to me that this guy is nothing more than a dirty whitewashed sex tourist. I can just imagine him walking down the streets of Taiwan trying to feel women up and concluding "damn, they must be afraid of being touched!" when he is rebuffed.



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by Illmatic on Tuesday, July 27 @ 23:46:07 EDT
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Interesting. He kind of rambles so a little tough to follow. Basically. One theme is that a focus on the material corrupts your soul. You are always bound to see more of this in richer nations than in poorer nation(if money is the root of evil then those who have it are more likely to be influenced by it). America is the richest nation and we do focus way too much on material gain. I think Japan is similar.

Another theme is that one must conform to get ahead in America. I don't know if I agree with this so much. Nowadays you see all differnent type of people succeeding and many of them in different ways. Of course, the corporation does seem to control a lot of destinies . . . .



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by mahod on Wednesday, July 28 @ 02:27:31 EDT
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Here are some facts on America:

-The fabric of our society is fraying. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer. Millions of Americans do not have health care. We have more people in prison per capita than any other country. Unemployment is far higher than the 6% reported by our government.

-Corporations are taking over our country. 1 in 300 people in American work for Walmart. 90% of mainstream media is controlled by 6 mega-corporations.

-There is only justice in America if you are white. Native Americans had their land stolen from them and their people massacred. African Americans were enslaved, oppressed, and lynched. And we all know our own 2nd-class citizen situation.

-The American economy is about to collapse. We spend way more than we save, and are forced to borrow trillions of dollars a year from Asia. Our industrial jobs have been shipped off to Asia. Now our professional jobs are being shipped off. Massive credit inflation will lead to a severe depression, and then currency hyperinflation. (Buy gold)

-We are engaged in a war in Iraq that we can not win. Casualties are much higher than reported in the media. Things are going very bady. (think Vietnam)

-Our congress is owned by Israel. We give Israel 6 billion dollars a year in foreign aid, far more than we give to any other country. A lot of that comes back into the US to buy our congressmen. They even got us to attack Iraq for them.

-We are about to run out of oil. Every significant oil well in the world has already peaked, and no major wells have been discovered since the 1970s. Without oil to run our tractors and synthesize fertilizer, our planet can only support 2 billion people. You do the math.

America used to be the land of opportunity. Not anymore. There are very dark times ahead of us.



Propaganda vs. Real Life in America vs. Terrible Reasoning (Score: 1)
by dawingsoffury on Thursday, July 29 @ 19:49:28 EDT
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I cannot believe this got posted. I would not even call this anything close to academic or even psuedo-intellectual. It relies far too much are circumstantial evidence, blind generalizations, dubious logic, and (this I find the most damning at all) does not cite one statistic nor one study (either political, anthropological, or scientific) to back up any of its claims. This is truly a lazy piece of half-truths backed up by shallow observations passed off as rock hard fact.

He mentions that he believe 80 to 90 percent of Europeans think Americans are too materialistic. But he does not back that claim up with one shred of evidence. He goes onto to say that those who are rejected by corporate america are outcasts who will end up losers. Hmmm.. Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were outcasts in corporate america that were not taken seriously. What did they do? They started Apple computercand now they are part of corporate america. Does not sound like they are poor, losers as the author has blindly generalized everyone who is not in corporate america. Even the most famous man who rails about corporate america, Michael Moore, is himself a millionaire. Seems that perhaps non-conformity is rewarded far more than the author has dimissively said it is.

Now I agree with several points the author makes. I agree that America, in general, is far too materialistic, that the gap between rich and poor is too big and that corporate consolidation of media outlets does lead to less diversity of viewpoints. However, I cannot excuse his shoddy logic, specious arguments, and appauling lack of statistics, studies, or evidence to back him up other than two emails from his dad and a girl in Russia. I hate this blantant generalizations such as California being the most racist state simply for the fact that minorities tend to date each other. Nevermind the fact, that the South still has hate groups and the KKK. Nevermind the fact, that southern states still have the confederate flag on their state flag, and claim there is no racist intent behind it. Nevermind the fact that California has one of the strongest anti-hate crime laws on the books. I just blew his argument out of the water by, I don't know, citing facts and figures. Something this author has little or no idea how to do.

And if America is so wretched and destroys all our spirtuality and creativity then why do Americans continuely produce major scientific breakthroughs, technological innovations (I find it ironic the author bashes California yet is using the Internet to post his message which Silicon Valley had a major role in developing) , artistic works such as books, independent movies, and alternative music? Of course, America can be better. We have major problems and far too many people are denied the equality, opportunities, and respect they deserve. To look past that is stupid. But to routinely condemn it using spurious reasoning (mental illness is skyrocketing in Asia so I fail to see how that is an uniquely american proglem) is also stupid.




Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by 3line on Friday, July 30 @ 19:43:12 EDT
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"It is not necessary for me to read foreign publications, nor to be influenced by their lies and false propaganda"

Well, it's quite apparent that you have read no publications at all. All you have done is ***** incessantly about a system from which you are profiting. You scream bloody murder whenever some third world untermensch refuse to bow down and kiss your money-laden Asian AMERIKKKAN feet.



Re: Propaganda vs. Real Life in America (Score: 1)
by GeoffDB on Sunday, August 01 @ 17:50:45 EDT
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America is a bastion of egotistical, race-conscious people who easily discount history when convenient in order to make contemporary arguments.

Whether Asia is home to people with mental problems is relevant, because they are probably people who are under duress and great stress and cannot live with poor social conditions.

Americans, however, create and allow poor social conditions and then conveniently, cleverly place the blame on oppressed people.

I wonder if the suicide rate in the US is greater than the rate in some Asian countries.



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by DalaiWu on Monday, August 02 @ 20:14:55 EDT
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I must assume that since this concept is impossible for you to absorb, that you cannot be Asian, unless foreigners adopted you. Anyone who is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc., would have understood exactly what I was saying...and it would have been obvious during the first posting.

I also question your simple comprehension of written English.

Why do you post on a site that you have zero cultural understanding?...Actually, why is any non-Asian on this site?


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